Comments on: Jesus in the Old Testament http://www.ilovethegospel.com/the-message/jesus-in-the-old-testament/ The Gospel isn't about what we must do for God, but it's about what God has done for us. Tue, 07 Jul 2009 08:24:25 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Eliazar Putera http://www.ilovethegospel.com/the-message/jesus-in-the-old-testament/comment-page-1/#comment-33 Eliazar Putera Thu, 16 Apr 2009 04:52:29 +0000 http://www.ilovethegospel.com/?p=1020#comment-33 Hi Luke thanks for the comment, I personally do not think that I am manipulating God's Word here. I love Jesus and I think it is so beautiful to see Jesus in the Old Testament I never said that Jesus was second to Israel. But Genesis 4 is a picture how Israel tried and tried and tried with their power to get God's blessings but instead their offering is not perfect (men's offerings would never be perfect) therefore Jesus came... I am here boasting His perfect works and offerings to Our Father Secondly, you said God never sent Israel form Him (are you sure?) - the 12 tribes are scattered all over the world....and in 1947 God brought them back and made the nation of Israel. I am not saying God does not love them... They are always and still the apple of His eye... the same like us gentiles because we are in Christ. Their salvation was a curse? please re-explain ... I dont really get what you mean. I dont think the verses say that their salvation was a curse? It is so clear that God is still with Israel and it shows how He loves them... please read verse 15 and so forth. God said "if anyone kills Cain/Israel, he will suffer 7 times." Is this not beautiful - How God still loves them and wants to protect them from their enemy? The truth of the fact is that.... Jesus was killed by the Israelites ... or Am I mistaken here? It was the pharisess and those religious leaders that wanted Jesus to be crucified? were they not Israelites? anyways... I am not trying to twist the Word of God or anything.... The Old Testament is a shadow of things to come... I do love learning the Bible.. and yes I stand for what I wrote. I dont think Im hindering the new believers to grow in their faith. God bless. :) Hi Luke

thanks for the comment,

I personally do not think that I am manipulating God’s Word here.
I love Jesus and I think it is so beautiful to see Jesus in the Old Testament

I never said that Jesus was second to Israel. But Genesis 4 is a picture how Israel tried and tried and tried with their power to get God’s blessings but instead their offering is not perfect (men’s offerings would never be perfect) therefore Jesus came…
I am here boasting His perfect works and offerings to Our Father

Secondly, you said God never sent Israel form Him (are you sure?) – the 12 tribes are scattered all over the world….and in 1947 God brought them back and made the nation of Israel. I am not saying God does not love them… They are always and still the apple of His eye… the same like us gentiles because we are in Christ.

Their salvation was a curse? please re-explain … I dont really get what you mean. I dont think the verses say that their salvation was a curse? It is so clear that God is still with Israel and it shows how He loves them… please read verse 15 and so forth. God said “if anyone kills Cain/Israel, he will suffer 7 times.” Is this not beautiful – How God still loves them and wants to protect them from their enemy?

The truth of the fact is that…. Jesus was killed by the Israelites … or Am I mistaken here?
It was the pharisess and those religious leaders that wanted Jesus to be crucified? were they not Israelites?

anyways… I am not trying to twist the Word of God or anything….
The Old Testament is a shadow of things to come…

I do love learning the Bible.. and yes I stand for what I wrote. I dont think Im hindering the new believers to grow in their faith.

God bless. :)

]]> By: Luke http://www.ilovethegospel.com/the-message/jesus-in-the-old-testament/comment-page-1/#comment-32 Luke Thu, 16 Apr 2009 04:02:22 +0000 http://www.ilovethegospel.com/?p=1020#comment-32 This is really dangerous ground on which you tread, as it's not man's place to manipulate God's word. - Firstly, Jesus was never second to Israel - Even after Jesus' death and resurrection, God never sent Israel from Him. God used Israel's action for their salvation. By what you suggest here, you say that their salvation was a curse. Really where you've gone here is to pollute the pure Word with an interpretation that is wrong in so many directions. A new believer could be very mislead by the lies you speak here. This is really dangerous ground on which you tread, as it’s not man’s place to manipulate God’s word.

- Firstly, Jesus was never second to Israel

- Even after Jesus’ death and resurrection, God never sent Israel from Him. God used Israel’s action for their salvation. By what you suggest here, you say that their salvation was a curse.

Really where you’ve gone here is to pollute the pure Word with an interpretation that is wrong in so many directions. A new believer could be very mislead by the lies you speak here.

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